Satanism - What is it?

[Creator]

What does Satanism mean to you? Is it actually worshipping Satan as a "deity" or is it a more of a non-religious philosophy? Define it!

[Summer]

In my own experience, although I have blacked out much of it fortunately, people actually worship Satan. And yes, it is an actual religion, albeit a magical one. I have a hard time thinking, let alone talking, about what I lived through. But if anyone has any questions about what it is like to live through Satanism, I will try to answer them to the best of my ability.

[pablo]

Hi

I understand that this must be very traumatic for you to relive but my first question was when did this happen? was it the 60s or 70s? I ask this as I feel that the world was very different back in the day and we weren't half as open and free. IMHO behind the hippy veneer there was some serious horrors about. These horrors manifest as social unrest and oppresssion but there must have been a spiritual or psychological dimension at work also.

Those tome were the dark ages!

Pablo

[Thorn]

I've had very little exposure to actual Satanists. Growing up in the 80's I met my share of spotty mal-adjusted teenage boys who enjoyed torturing small animals while listening to Black Sabbath. They called themselves "Satanists." Sad, really.

Back in the usenet days there were a few Church of Satan members and Setites who used to post on alt.paganism (much to the chagrin of many Wicca.) They seemed more the philosophical sort - every man for himself, enjoy the hell out of this life because that's all you get, etc. Pretty generic hedonists, actually. (At least as far as their posts went. Who knows what they actually practiced.)

I've fortunately never met any of the really scary sort.

[Creator]

I think there is a group who calls themselves Satanists, who are spotty teens in black clothes running around setting fire to churches and knocking tombstones over.

Then there is a group who are atheists, using Satan as a symbol of their self centered lifestyle, based on some sort of Nietzsche-type philosophy. Everyone for himself.

The third group really worships Satan as a deity. Sacrifices animals and people and all that shit. I call them mentally ill.

The group I think are closest to "true" Satanism (if there is such a thing) is The Temple of Set.
www.xeper.org/

[Summer]

The things that I lived through happened mostly in the 70's. It was the actual "real thing" where they do human sacrifices, etc. Fortunately I don't remember much of it yet, and may never, according to my Therapist, because it was sooooo traumatic to me. I do know that a couple of my girlfriends that went through the same crap that I did remember a lot more than I do. They have attempted to talk to me about it, but I didn't want to talk to them. It is weird when you don't know who you can trust to talk to.

I am not sure, but I think that my adopted parents are still in the same religion. I haven't seen them for over 17 years now, since I remembered what they did to me. I am not planning on ever being that close to them again. The kind of magic that they practice is disgusting to me, and I don't want them to even see my children, let alone find someway to connect with them. Plus, I am still going through a magical war with them. They haven't stopped worrying that I am going to expose them somehow. Like I have in the past. They are actually my enemies now. Course with how much child abuse I went through, I don't see how they can expect me to want to be near them any way.

[marilyn]

admin said:

The third group really worships Satan as a deity. Sacrifices animals and people and all that shit. I call them mentally ill.

LOLLOL!!!!

I agree!

[marilyn]

debbie said:

The things that I lived through happened mostly in the 70's. It was the actual "real thing" where they do human sacrifices, etc. Fortunately I don't remember much of it yet, and may never, according to my Therapist, because it was sooooo traumatic to me. I do know that a couple of my girlfriends that went through the same crap that I did remember a lot more than I do. They have attempted to talk to me about it, but I didn't want to talk to them. It is weird when you don't know who you can trust to talk to.

I am not sure, but I think that my adopted parents are still in the same religion. I haven't seen them for over 17 years now, since I remembered what they did to me. I am not planning on ever being that close to them again. The kind of magic that they practice is disgusting to me, and I don't want them to even see my children, let alone find someway to connect with them. Plus, I am still going through a "bruha" war with them. They haven't stopped worrying that I am going to expose them somehow. Like I have in the past. They are actually my enemies now. Course with how much child abuse I went through, I don't see how they can expect me to want to be near them any way.

I'm sorry this happened to you. This type of upbringing would surely scar any one.

I just don't understand what your adopted parents got out of it? Did they gain power? Money? Status? I never understood dealings with the devil?

-Marilyn

[Summer]

As a matter of fact, Marilyn, they did get really rich somehow. I cannot see how, since my adopted father was on the verge of bankruptcy until he received my real Mother's life insurance check. He was her benificiary, and she had a really large life insurance amount, so maybe that is how his business consulting firm ended up franchising out to the Western United States. I cannot be sure if it was the money that my Mother gave him through her untimely death, or the black magick that helped his business skyrocket. I would personally think that it was both that changed their monetary life. They are multimillionares for now. Although, I know how quickly that can change for people sometimes, and when dealing with bad karma, or the Orisha's for instance, one never does know where one will end up in the long run.

[Summer]

You see, my memories of the abuse I lived through as a child came back in stages. I remembered the severe beatings first. And then a couple of years later, I remembered the sexual abuse. After the sexual abuse came to the for front of my mind, I decided to sue my adopted parents, because I am sure that not only was I sexually abused, but my older daughter was as well at a very young age. I was positive after I had remembered what my adopted father did, that he was the one who sexually molested my oldest daughter when she was 4. I saw red, and got an attorney. You can hurt me all you want, but do not hurt my babies!

After a year or so into the lawsuit, I started to have darker memories of ritualistic abuse, but I just kept thinking that it had to be only memories of nightmares that I lived through. I felt that there was no way I could've lived through that too. But when my lawyer and I received the questions that they were going to ask me in my deposition, and within the first 4 questions were 2 that asked if I had ever been involved in Satanism, I knew at that point that my "nightmares" had indeed been real. Unfortunately, after wrestling with myself for another year or so, and after having a really hard time finding any witnesses that would go up against my multi-millionaire "Mormon" parents, I decided out of fear to drop the lawsuit. Which is the stupidest thing I think I ever did. But finding out that the Satanism was real really, really scared me. I was living in fear for my children's lives, and no amount of money was worth losing even one of them for. So I just dropped the lawsuit and went on with my life.

[stoneknights]

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i SEE IT THIS WAY -

to me satan ism and well satan is makin quite the come back today your standard satan is flin around everywhere and well is controllin this planet more and more its a shame really
he has twisted it up pretty good this time and its a slow stir hard to notice and well I dont care for it much'o!!!

ok soooooooooooooo

To me hell only exist in your life time you have a choice to either make it nice or not so nice
Then we get to die and life in heaven happily ever after!!

DJ

[michael]

satanism is anything dishonest.
anything unwholesome is satanism.

[pablo]

Debbie,

IMHO Satanists worship the Xtian adversary of God. I find it unfathomable given the issues that I have with the veracity of the bible. I do feel that there may be some objective reality in Satan but it simply doesn't impinge on me. I am more concerned about human wickedness of which there is a plenty! It is simply more important for us as humans to accept our own responsibility for the wickedness we choose to bring.

Best wishes

Pablo

[pablo]

Lately I have been wondering if anything like a black mass is every justifiable. I wonder if someone was profoundly damaged by a rabid Xtian upringing if This could every be used as a therapeutic tool to relieve them of Xtian guilt and trauma.

I have met people for whom Xtian upbring was a traumatic experience. The trauma was probably due to the wickedness of the people in responsibility and yes is best defined as child abuse.

I just want to understand why worship satan. Mind you I can't understand why anyone would worship the Cthulu deities

Regards

Pablo

[Summer]

I wish I could help you out with the why's here, but I cannot. Even being raised the way that I was, I cannot for the life of me understand the why's.

I do believe however that it is a religion based on fear. I have a theory that at least one of my parents was raised in Satanism, and they were too afraid to leave it for whatever reason. But this is only a theory, as I haven't asked them, and probably never will.