Mary Magdalene and Jesus

[Summer]

I truly feel that Mary Magdalene was a bigger part of Jesus life than what the modern day King James version of the bible portrays. After all, when he conquered death and came back to life after 3 days, the first person that he appeared to was Mary! I personally believe that Mary Magdalene and Jesus were married, and that they even had a child that was born after Jesus was crucified. Any other opinions on this?

[ophie]

I don't belive in religion anymore. So I might guess that my mother would say that Mary Magdalene was Jesus's "mother", because the whole life of Jesus starts when he was born in the barn and partly because the catholic's say that. Those were my thoughts

[jimmyRRpage]

From what I know, Mary Magdalene and Mary Mother of Jesus are not the same person.

I am also inclined to believe that Mary Magdalene and Jesus were married, and even had a child or children. I also believe there may have been a chance that Jesus survived the crucifiction, and that was the reason why when the girls went back to Jesus's grave, the stone was moved and his body was gone. Thus, Jesus "appearing" to Mary Magdalene was not some spirit of Jesus, but Jesus himself, reuniting with his wife after being tortured.

Then again, this is all if this "Jesus" even existed, which I'm slowly coming to doubt.

[Summer]

Well, I agree with you about Mary the mother, and Mary Magdalene being 2 different people. Jesus had 3 Mary's that surrounded him in his life actually. I do believe that Jesus did live, and that he did manifest a "physical" body of some sorts after he died on the cross. I believe that Mary was pregnant at the time of the crucifiction, and that she journeyed into Egypt and maybe even later into France with Joseph of Arimathea. It is a legend that Joseph of Arimathea took the Holy Grail to England even, and started the first Christian church there where it is rumoured that Avalon existed. I am really interested in finding out for myself what the Holy Grail actually is. It is a topic that I will probably study for the rest of my life, hoping to find my version of the truth somehow.

[michael]

Most people miss Jesus' greatest lesson.
His greatest lesson was that a man must honor womanhood.
Were Jesus & Mary married?
Who would marry them?
Who would have the power to wed the Son of God to a woman?

When Jesus lived women were not treated as equals,
And that is what he taught by loving Mary Magdalene
He was married to her in the sense that we are all married to the ones we love in God.
God is Love.
And, as debbie pointed out, obviously Mary was closest to Jesus Heart, she was there when he was crucified (all THREE Mary's), and, she was the crucial part of the whole miracle of his ressurection, because she is the one who saw him risen.
And yes, the other apostles were jealous of her, and didn't believe her testimony, this was during a time when women were not treated as if they could be so close with God.

Another key that many scholars miss-
The idea that the Lord God is seen as a FATHER in heaven.
If you look at the definition of the word Father, you'll find that it means a person who looks after children. And that a being really cannot be known as a "father" unless obviously he is given that title by a Woman Mother.

This mystery applies to the Mary & Jesus chain too, because it is the nature of Womanhood to be the resounding abyss of space, and silence.
Of course, Mystery itself IS Womanhood.
God has a wife, but she likes to remain hidden, that is her nature.
It is important that men think themselves the better, lol.
otherwise how to come to such revelation?

Mary Magdalene is the pinnacle of Womanhood, and Eve, and Mother Mary.
And the secret of the Holy Grail is the fact that when any man or woman understands fully what Womanhood is, it solves the entire Mystery of God.
And this is why it only happens at the begining of time, and the ending of time.
(christ is begining and ending too if you don't know that already)

Debbie said, "I am really interested in finding out for myself what the Holy Grail actually is."

Well, I just told you-
The Holy Grail is the Mystery of Womanhood.
And the secret to finding it is: Honesty.

I'll be glad to answer any questions you might have.

[Summer]

Wonderful ideas that you have Michael! You seem to have given this subject a lot of thought, as have I.

[Summer]

www.magdalene.org/

Above is a link to a website dedicated to Mary Magdalene. There is a lot of interesting information there.

[jimmyRRpage]

I figure I'll use this to say my thoughts all together on the whole thing with Jesus and Christianity and such.

As some know, I was raised Catholic until about third grade. My Mother converted to Judaism from Catholocism when I was in 8th grade, after we had moved Georgia. My Dad was born Jewish, and it was my coming Bar Mitzvah, Dad's desire to be a Cantor, and her losing faith in Catholicism that caused my mother to eventually convert.

Her father, however, is a Deacon at St. Theresa's in Trumbull, Connecticut, and both of Mom's parents are very active in the church (active enough to be the soul reasons why St. Theresa's is no longer an Anti-Semetic church).

I always hated CCD, and the Bible, especially the New Testament, never made much sense to me, even at a young age. We moved to Georgia when I had 1 month left of 3rd grade. I attempted other forms of Christianity, including (shock) Born Again and Evangelism.

The whole religion left me, and still leaves me, cold. So at 12.5 years old, I decided I wanted to be Jewish, because it made more sense to me, and left me warm, instead of cold.



a side note:
I don't mean any offense to anyone. Please note that these are my thoughts and opinions. If it turns out I'm wrong and Jesus is the Messiah, then I take back every word. I do not claim to know, and I hate people who claim to know.



If Jesus did exist, then I believe he is tossing, turning, and even screaming in his grave from fustration at Humanity, and especially Christianity. I do believe that Jesus's spirit, if he existed, is in Heaven crying on Mary Magdelene's shoulder, wondering where it all went wrong.

I truly believe that if a scroll was found, and by some miracle was proven to be a sort of gospel written by Jesus himself, Christianity would reject it simply because it would tell a radically different story.

I believe that, if he existed, Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah, or anyone special. I believe that if Jesus truly existed, he was no more than a Temple Rabbi, and maybe even gave the ritual sacrifices.

I believe that Mary Magdelene was no whore, but Jesus's wife. I also don't understand why the idea of Jesus loving and maybe even marrying a woman is such a forbidden concept to Christianity. Isn't love a devine creation? Can't love be devine?

I believe that Jesus and Mary had not one, but many children, and that it is very possible that their bloodline does still exist (so yes, while I believe the "Fact Page" in The Da Vinci Code was part of the fiction, I beleive that the story has a lot of truth in it).

I also believe that if he existed, and was crucified, Jesus survived the crucifixion, which is why his body cannot be found. I believe his "reappearance" to his wife and mother was not his spirit or his divine entity, but him, and I do not believe he showed up strong. I believe he showed up weak, and in pain... maybe even crawling to them. And they took him and nursed him back to health, and then they went into hiding, while Jesus watched, through the rest of his life, as his teachings were turned into something he never intended, knowing he could do nothing about it.

While I have not yet decided what the Truth is, and I will wait to decide what it is until I die, I cannot believe Jesus was the Messiah, simply because these supposed texts that call him such were not only written down after the longest game of Telephone in history, but each account... each gospel... is so different from the others. There are way too many holes and logical fallacies in the gospels.

I do believe that if I'm wrong, and Jesus was the Messiah, than the Gnostic gospels paint the truer picture of Jesus then the "Accepted Gospels."

[Summer]

I can accept your beliefs, but only agree with part of them. I believe that Jesus was a great Master/Teacher on this earth, maybe even the greatest to ever walk this earth. I also believe that he was the messiah, but what he brought was the teaching of love.

I think that it is possible to manifest one's body again after death, and I think that was what he did. I believe that he did die on the cross, and that he manifested himself to Mary and the others to show them that he had conquered death, and that someday they could also. But I respect the thought that you have put into this subject. You are way ahead of your years, Jimmyrrpage.

[guest]

I think Jesus and Mary were married because in thoes times it was usual for Jewish men to be married. As for children I dont know.
but there is more to the Jesus story than we know.

[Summer]

I completely agree with you guest. We think along the same lines. It was customary for Jewish men to be married in those times, especially if they were called Rabbi's, which Jesus often was called.