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Post by Creator on Sept 8, 2006 1:35:53 GMT -5
Some people use cannabis for medical reasons. What exactly does it cure? Or is it used as a painkiller?
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Post by Thorn on Sept 8, 2006 9:44:16 GMT -5
I understand it can relieve the pressure build up in the eyes in the case of glaucoma.
It's also a wonderful appetite stimulant, which is what a lot of cancer patients use it for. When my grandfather had cancer, it was literally the only thing that would let him to eat.
I don't know that it would work as a pain killer? At least, in my limited experience, that hasn't been the case. OTOH, there is a lot of stress with chronic illness; I imagine that by allowing one to relax, it would relieve stress-related pains.
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Post by Summer on Sept 8, 2006 11:06:06 GMT -5
Yes, it is the stress related pain that cannibus can help. Plus, for those illnesses where there are problems with eating it works really well to help the patient to be able to eat. But I don't really know much more about it than that, even though one of my best friends and her husband are medical marijauna patients. I should ask them what else it helps.
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Post by Thorn on Sept 8, 2006 11:21:21 GMT -5
What I can't get my head around is all the resistance to medical marijuana in this country. (I don't know if there are the same problems elsewhere.)
I mean, if we can acknowledge that opiates are useful medicines, why not something much less addictive/dangerous? You can regulate poppies but not pot? Does having the strictly controlled access that we have to morphine and codine, etc, really cause an increase in recreational heroin use? (Granted, I for one have been known to save up as much as possible of a Vicodin prescription for use later "when I can enjoy it." I'm sure many others do the same. But this doesn't negate it's usefulness when it is needed, and AFAIK no one has tried to ban it.)
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Post by Summer on Sept 8, 2006 11:49:06 GMT -5
I have experienced the prejudism against medical marijuana patients through my girlfriend that lives 4 houses down from me. When they were robbed at gunpoint in the middle of the night a few weeks ago, and the cops showed up, according to her the cops were incredibly rude to her and her husband. They mis-reported how many plants were stolen, and how much money was stolen too! The cops didn't even seem to care that they were robbed at gunpoint in her opinion! They were more worried about the fact that Kristie and her husband had been growing pot in there house, and asked them all sorts of questions about that, rather than the robberu! This was even after they had physical proof that they were medical marijuana patients! I really don't understand the prejudice myself either, Thorn. What is the difference between drugs anyway? A drug that is used for healing purposes shouldn't cause such a great stir, especially when it is something as natural as pot. I don't get the way people think at all in this country!
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Post by Thorn on Sept 8, 2006 12:02:43 GMT -5
A drug that is used for healing purposes shouldn't cause such a great stir, especially when it is something as natural as pot. Just an aside, because it's a tiny pet peeve of mine (and not that this is what you meant, but it's just set off an alarm in my head and I feel compelled to respond whenever there may be some misunderstanding on this issue. Blame my teachers ): I don't know that "natural" comes into this arguement. While I'd love to see more emphasis on herbs and other natural healing techniques, natural doesn't necessarily mean harmless. Hemlock is natural, after all. So is Belladonna. (Which, BTW, is legal to use medicinally.) As for the first part of your statement, this is my thought exactly. I've got no problem with certain medicines being prescription only, even ones you have to sign for, but we really need to trust that doctors doing the prescribing know what their business (within reason of course - there'll always be bad ones, which is why we should also be actively involved in our own healthcare.)
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Post by Thorn on Sept 8, 2006 12:08:46 GMT -5
Back when my grandfather was using it, marijuana wasn't legal in any state, medicial or otherwise. I think this is the one and only time that our family was grateful for my brother's unsavory habits...
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Post by Pledm on Sept 10, 2006 15:14:14 GMT -5
Hi all, I trully believe in cannabis,I always have and I`m not a regular smoker,its from an experience I had with a `ex` of mine she had Crohn`s disease and it was brutal for her man it was rough to see(I was living with her)there are so many disease`s but this takes the cake,got your in the washroom alot and you have to be so strict with the food,god it was a experience and I wasn`t the person going through it.But when we got high,she felt painless,thats what I remember,she didn`t have pain,she wasn`t high,she could relax and not worry about the washroom. She had a period of being normal.I`m gald I experienced it.
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Post by Summer on Sept 10, 2006 23:08:45 GMT -5
That's nice that it helped your ex-girlfriend so much, Pledm. It's nice to know that it is legal now for people who have these diseases to be able to use cannibus now, because they can get a prescription for it and become medically certified to be allowed to use it for their illnesses. Of course the government can regulate the marijuana drug, just like they do for all of the other drugs. There really should not be a stigmatism with cannibus use if a person has a medical prescription for it as far as I am concerned.
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Post by pablo on Sept 11, 2006 3:32:35 GMT -5
Well I am generally anti-Cannabis and anti drugs but I believe that there is something in the medicinal use of cannabis. A friend of mine had Chrohn's disease and I would have been happy to get him some ganja if I had known because he was in agony at times and then there was the bathroom calls.
Of course the pot that we knew as kids is now so much stronger...
Mind you, if alchohol was recently discovered it would be banned. I would be happy for the government to decriminalise it and regulate it.
Pablo
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Post by Creator on Sept 11, 2006 12:27:41 GMT -5
I have tried cannabis once in my life. It didn't have any effect whatsoever on me. I ate it, didn't smoke it, since I don't smoke. I am one of the few people who has never ever smoked a cig in their life. I think cannabis should be legal for medical use.
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Post by Thorn on Sept 11, 2006 14:26:20 GMT -5
Personally, I've got nothing against the intelligent and responsible use of recreational drugs. (And no, I don't think that's an oxymoron. Though I do admit with some substances it comes close.)
That said, I think I've smoked pot maybe 5 times in my life. Which is pretty impressive considering I was born and raised in Humboldt county, CA, where the stuff is practically currency. (I can most likely thank the aforementioned elder brother for being a sort of anti-role-model in that area.) I did enjoy it quite a bit the last couple of times, but then I moved out of the emerald triangle, and the idea of actually having to pay money for the stuff just seemed like too much bother.
What I just don't understand is the inability of some people to distinguish between the use of marijuana as a medicine and it's use as an intoxicant, when no one has trouble making that distinction with any other medicine.
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Post by Summer on Sept 12, 2006 5:01:43 GMT -5
This is what I have the problem with. There is alcohol in medicines such as Nyquil, and no one seems to have a problem with that! Why is it so hard for people to understand that cannibus also has it's healing properties, just like so many other drugs do? It just doesn't make sense at all to me. So I totally agree with you Thorn.
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Post by Pledm on Sept 13, 2006 17:11:55 GMT -5
Hi Deb, When i was living with my girlfriend it was like 13 yrs ago,pot was not legal for medicine so it was `very hard` to get it and not worry,she had a big problem especially since you had to find at the right time the right `dealer`.That made it so maddening to see someone you care so much about and the medicine that the doctors were giving your partner wasn`t doing s--t,but a couple of puffs of something else and my ex had no more stomach pain,she wanted to eat and she didn`t frequent the washroom. Trust me when you see both examples presented to your partner you give or get it for them no matter what and I did. I now see that in some cases its called medical,behaps my ex is doing that I don`t know,,all I know at the time it was hard and it worked.
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Post by Summer on Sept 13, 2006 18:55:48 GMT -5
The medical marijuana thing has only been going on for a few years now. It is still illegal federally, but the state where I live allows it to be used if you have a prescription for it. Sorry that you had to go through that Pledm, but it is almost just as hard to get it for the people that I know that are medically certified, as it used to be for you to get it for your partner.
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